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	<title>Comments on: Bald Hill Farm: Is the Land Use Code More Valuable Than the Community?</title>
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	<description>Lets talk openly and honestly together about this city we love.</description>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone interested in land use won&#039;t want to miss the next City Club meeting!

Speakers:
Andrew Martin, Bald Hill Farm, Inc., Corvallis
Dan McGrath, staff chair, Linn County Extension
Peter Kenagy, Kenagy Family Farms Inc., Albany

September 13, 11:45 to 1:15

NOTE THE NEW LOCATION

Banquet Room, Renaissance Building, 
136 SW Washington St., Corvallis

http://www.cityclubofcorvallis.org/
http://twitter.com/ccofc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone interested in land use won&#8217;t want to miss the next City Club meeting!</p>
<p>Speakers:<br />
Andrew Martin, Bald Hill Farm, Inc., Corvallis<br />
Dan McGrath, staff chair, Linn County Extension<br />
Peter Kenagy, Kenagy Family Farms Inc., Albany</p>
<p>September 13, 11:45 to 1:15</p>
<p>NOTE THE NEW LOCATION</p>
<p>Banquet Room, Renaissance Building,<br />
136 SW Washington St., Corvallis</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cityclubofcorvallis.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cityclubofcorvallis.org/</a><br />
<a href="http://twitter.com/ccofc" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/ccofc</a></p>
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		<title>By: Shannon Morgan</title>
		<link>http://www.welovecorvallis.com/2009/12/bald-hill-farm-is-the-land-use-code-more-valuable-than-the-community/comment-page-1/#comment-1306</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have lived here for 17 years and Corvallis has ALWAYS been good at running business off!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have lived here for 17 years and Corvallis has ALWAYS been good at running business off!</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine Cleland</title>
		<link>http://www.welovecorvallis.com/2009/12/bald-hill-farm-is-the-land-use-code-more-valuable-than-the-community/comment-page-1/#comment-883</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine Cleland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We the people</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We the people</p>
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		<title>By: Marcy Eastham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcy Eastham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am reminded of the Disney feature &quot;Aladdin&quot; where, near the end of the story, Princess Jasmine wants to marry Aladdin but her father said she couldn&#039;t because the law said she must marry a Prince.  Jasmine asked who made the laws, and her father said the Sultan.  So, she asked, if the Sultan made the law, couldn&#039;t the Sultan change the law? And, of course, he did so she could marry Aladdin. 

So....who in Corvallis &quot;makes the law&quot; in Corvallis?  And who can change it?  Hm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reminded of the Disney feature &#8220;Aladdin&#8221; where, near the end of the story, Princess Jasmine wants to marry Aladdin but her father said she couldn&#8217;t because the law said she must marry a Prince.  Jasmine asked who made the laws, and her father said the Sultan.  So, she asked, if the Sultan made the law, couldn&#8217;t the Sultan change the law? And, of course, he did so she could marry Aladdin. </p>
<p>So&#8230;.who in Corvallis &#8220;makes the law&#8221; in Corvallis?  And who can change it?  Hm?</p>
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		<title>By: Loyan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Intentionally following the letter of the law but not the spirit may be accomplished through exploiting technicalities, loopholes, and ambiguous language. Following the letter of the law but not the spirit is also a tactic used by oppressive governments.&quot;

~ From the opening to &quot;Letter and spirit of the law&quot; on Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_and_spirit_of_the_law</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Intentionally following the letter of the law but not the spirit may be accomplished through exploiting technicalities, loopholes, and ambiguous language. Following the letter of the law but not the spirit is also a tactic used by oppressive governments.&#8221;</p>
<p>~ From the opening to &#8220;Letter and spirit of the law&#8221; on Wikipedia.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_and_spirit_of_the_law" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_and_spirit_of_the_law</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Nordyke</title>
		<link>http://www.welovecorvallis.com/2009/12/bald-hill-farm-is-the-land-use-code-more-valuable-than-the-community/comment-page-1/#comment-662</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Nordyke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who are these other people you refer to Stewart? 

The ones following the law...can you cite a SIMILAR project that managed to navigate all the appropriate letters of the law to a successful end? 

The scope of this project includes some pretty unique attributes as far as I can tell, not to mention the generous partnership(courtesy of Martin and Co) with the County that kicked off this project. 

Our values haven&#039;t changed, only the circumstances since the community developed the code. Should we not flex and accomodate what matches our values- those values that initially spawned the code itself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who are these other people you refer to Stewart? </p>
<p>The ones following the law&#8230;can you cite a SIMILAR project that managed to navigate all the appropriate letters of the law to a successful end? </p>
<p>The scope of this project includes some pretty unique attributes as far as I can tell, not to mention the generous partnership(courtesy of Martin and Co) with the County that kicked off this project. </p>
<p>Our values haven&#8217;t changed, only the circumstances since the community developed the code. Should we not flex and accomodate what matches our values- those values that initially spawned the code itself?</p>
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		<title>By: stewart wershow</title>
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		<dc:creator>stewart wershow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The present land development code was developed with the intention of promoting a livable community. At the same time, the code was given more clear and objective language to make it easier for economic development to occur. The request for a more streamlined development process came from the business community. Economic development had been stalled by the need for many public hearings required by the older code. People have expressed concern about the message Bald Hill will send to developers. If the law is not upheld, those developers will not know what rules they can depend on. They will go elsewhere. It is unfortunate that the Bald Hill farm people did not check in with the city before they started their business. But other people did. It is not fair to the people who follow the code to give a free pass to Bald Hill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The present land development code was developed with the intention of promoting a livable community. At the same time, the code was given more clear and objective language to make it easier for economic development to occur. The request for a more streamlined development process came from the business community. Economic development had been stalled by the need for many public hearings required by the older code. People have expressed concern about the message Bald Hill will send to developers. If the law is not upheld, those developers will not know what rules they can depend on. They will go elsewhere. It is unfortunate that the Bald Hill farm people did not check in with the city before they started their business. But other people did. It is not fair to the people who follow the code to give a free pass to Bald Hill.</p>
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		<title>By: Loyan</title>
		<link>http://www.welovecorvallis.com/2009/12/bald-hill-farm-is-the-land-use-code-more-valuable-than-the-community/comment-page-1/#comment-645</link>
		<dc:creator>Loyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am disappointed that a law prevents city leaders from engaging with citizens in any circumstance. But comments here are a small matter compared to the closing of the Bald Hill Farm store. 

I am far more concerned that our City Councilors will vote to uphold the order to close the store not because it is the right thing to do, but because it is what the law requires.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am disappointed that a law prevents city leaders from engaging with citizens in any circumstance. But comments here are a small matter compared to the closing of the Bald Hill Farm store. </p>
<p>I am far more concerned that our City Councilors will vote to uphold the order to close the store not because it is the right thing to do, but because it is what the law requires.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Nordyke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Nordyke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comments weren&#039;t toward anyone in particular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comments weren&#8217;t toward anyone in particular.</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine Cleland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine Cleland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you guys trying to say that mayor thomlinson should disregard the law to comment on this blog, and put himself and the city at risk?  To what end?  Open dialogue among a few technorati?  Don&#039;t see the greater good in that.  Have to weigh in among the more seasoned...&quot;you&#039;ve got to know when to use a silver bullet and when not to...you&#039;re only given so many in a very long life.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you guys trying to say that mayor thomlinson should disregard the law to comment on this blog, and put himself and the city at risk?  To what end?  Open dialogue among a few technorati?  Don&#8217;t see the greater good in that.  Have to weigh in among the more seasoned&#8230;&#8221;you&#8217;ve got to know when to use a silver bullet and when not to&#8230;you&#8217;re only given so many in a very long life.&#8221;</p>
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